Can I play someone and also have a button to call up what a low level chess engine suggests

NO You CANNOT have a button for cheating 'low - level' players just to learn what ? Cheating is a bad thing to teach a young Lady @Mark_Ilkley ... Remember what I said NO you don't get the 'button'

* There are a bunch of sites that focus on chess for younger people. You can search for them.

* Another option is Lucas Chess (free) You can search the discussion for Lucas chess and also see the web and youtube.
lucaschess.pythonanywhere.com

It has groups/ ladders of engines starting at very weak engines.
It has an optional tutor function that provides positive and negative feedback, hints and takebacks all with settable limits.

Main Menu: PLAY
lucaschess.pythonanywhere.com/static/pdf/english/Lucas%20Chess%201-Play.pdf
**Opponents for younger players: Monkey, Donkey etc. (8 weaker engines)

**Play against an engine Basic Configuration:
***Opponent: Options
Internal Engines pre-installed; Engines with Fixed ELO 700 up in steps of 100; Opponents for younger players; Lucas-ELO Multiple groups of engines 10 or 15 engines within a rating range of 175 points (starting at 1100) grouped from lowest to highest ratings;
They have a large number of Maia engines. With many of the engines, you would have to add 300-400 points to get roughly the equivalent LiCh rating.
**Play against an engine Help Configuration:
***Set up the features of the powerful optional Tutor (like an expert assistant) and you can select the engine that provides feedback but available seem like top 150 engines.
lucaschess.pythonanywhere.com/static/pdf/english/Lucas%20Chess%203-Compete.pdf

LiChess has a firm long-time zero tolerance for the use of engines / assistance in both rated or casual games and will just do a Terms of Service (TOS) Ban, period, no fooling around.

Just make her play on chesscom against bots. Turn on the relevant crutches like hints.

But if i may suggest something, it's best to do a post game analysis instead. Chess as much as finding the best move, is also about the discipline of consistently doing the process on finding the best move. By turning on crutches during the game, this discipline / good habit will be difficult to form. Pretty soon, the learner will have this habit of not thinking things through for themselves and will always itch for an assist.

@GnocchiPup said in #23:
> Just make her play on chesscom against bots. Turn on the relevant crutches like hints.
>
> But if i may suggest something, it's best to do a post game analysis instead. Chess as much as finding the best move, is also about the discipline of consistently doing the process on finding the best move. By turning on crutches during the game, this discipline / good habit will be difficult to form. Pretty soon, the learner will have this habit of not thinking things through for themselves and will always itch for an assist.

Yeah but also neither of us are that serious about it - so that isn't going to happen
We just want to enjoy chess at a simple level and socially chat a bit at the same time
Sometimes I suggest moves for her learning and make my moves also for her learning
We do loads of move take backs etc

But sometimes she might say I don't know what to do - in terms of tactics and actual moves - and neither do I
So that is when being able to see what a chess engine says would help - but ideally not a very good one just one that was a bit better than us so that we can think - ah that makes sense

Online chess helped me with my mental health when I was really really bad - and so I am teaching her for the same reasons and she says it is working
Just something to keep the head busy when it is going round and round due to trauma etc
Speed chess is very good for this - against strangers and NOW - even if 2 in the morning - then another game and then another and another

But playing each other if we are in the right space allows a bit of supportive chat as well as social chat
Sometimes one of us might not be in the right space and we just play the chess and turn voice off - but it still helps and we sort of understand the "level" at which we allow take backs

Thanks to everyone for their replies to date - though some don't seem to understand that this is nothing to do with cheating at all - but that could be a language understanding thing

@Mark_Ilkley Dress it up however you like. Think of all the reasons / excuses you like. Using an engine is cheating and not allowed!.

@BorisOspasky said in #25:
> @Mark_Ilkley Dress it up however you like. Think of all the reasons / excuses you like. Using an engine is cheating and not allowed!.

Lol

Do you know GMs use them and nearly the entire chess world ?

@Mark_Ilkley Only cheats use them during a game.

TBH I don’t care what you do. It’s your account, not mine, so as I said, only cheats use them during a game.

There is nothing to gain from this. Firstly, you will not improve your chess, if anything, it will hinder your process. Secondly, you will probably be banned. I recommend you use the engine after the game to analyze it, that's what the GMs are doing.

Good

Sure are some funny folks out there in the chess world

I am worried now that chess might harm my brain and make me unable to understand the world beyond that

Oh well I will just have to hope that I am never sat next to any at a dinner party