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Analyzing with engine vs without engine

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Depends on my mental tiredness.... ('•~•)
How to use the engine to make you see more is to visualize without moving the pieces @Cs1xlly . Let's NOT Use the better than the World Chess Champion Engine is not an option ... I still remember when in the 1980s the first win by a computer chess engine vs a GM happened at the American Open GM Bent Larsen . Use it but not as a crutch obviously
@ThunderClap said in #3:
> Use it but not as a crutch obviously
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This might seem an obvious point, "it goes without saying" etc., but it's something a lot of us miss. Just look at the games in the analysis forum. A lot of people just spit out the silicon answer (usually they just run the version of SF that's here on Lichess) and think that's analysis. And then they talk about their game as if they saw everything. When I look at such a game, I'm left wondering about a half dozen decisions or more that I believe are worth discussing, they are just skimmed over without comment.
I have long suspected that most players (at least below master class) simply can't use a computer without turning their brains off. Including myself. Which is why I try to do all the analysis the old way: with a board on the table, my notebook and pen at the side.
I like the graph personally. I don't deep dive into analysis. Just interested in my accuracy over the match.
WITHOUT !!!!!!!!!

then you go back and use an engine.

Engines will jack with you ... they will give you a plus score in a position that you have to thread a needle to play (i.e. play precise as F$#K! for like 10 consecutive moves in a complex tactical position.

You can't go on that.
You miss tactical ideas, defense resources etc within the positions... again because the computer sees the refutations 10 move out.